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now, the governor rick snyder is expected to sign this legislation when and if it hits his desk. a lot of folks here believe that this is a back door attempt at trying to limit democracy in the state of michigan. you can hear some of the protests behind me and union workers here believe it's a direct attempt at trying to break the backs of the unions as i should say and a lot of folks believe that this is payback for the result of the election on november 6th. the re-election of president obama. i spoke with the head of the chamber of commerce here in michigan. he believes this is going to be beneficial to the state. helps him go around the country and around the world promoting jobs in michigan. this will make business more pro-friendly here in michigan. now, some of the workers here today believe it's an issue of fairness. that they believe all the advances that union leadership over the generations have helped to put in effect here in this state are essentially going to be taken advantage of nonpaying members. here's what a member had to say this morning. >> you bring a nonuni
now, the governor rick snyder is expected to sign this legislation when and if it hits his desk. a lot of folks here believe that this is a back door attempt at trying to limit democracy in the state of michigan. you can hear some of the protests behind me and union workers here believe it's a direct attempt at trying to break the backs of the unions as i should say and a lot of folks believe that this is payback for the result of the election on november 6th. the re-election of president...
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republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this into a bigger message about the middle class, working americans. is this a good time for republicans to be on the side -- well, against workers rights in the context of this broader conversation we're having? >> you know, we shall see here because they clearly have the votes and snyder says he is going to do this. you see the response. you saw the response in wisconsin. their walker survived the fight. i assume this will be as big, if not bigger, and the uaw, of course, the unions are even stronger in michigan than they are in wisconsin, so, you know, this will be a
republican governor rick snyder is expected to sign that bill into law. too would make michigan the 24th state to approve a right to work law, which exempts employees in a union workplace from joining or paying dues to that union. meanwhile, pro-union protesters are swarming the michigan capital building in lansing in scenes reminiscent of the battles over union rights in wisconsin and in ohio last year. david corn, we -- the president has sort of -- was in michigan yesterday, and bundled this...
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even though the governor, rick snyder, didn't talk about it, but mary kay henry wanted to make a final point. >> i just disagree with the idea that it's wait and see. we know that ohio, missouri, kansas are all considering right to work legislation in january, and i agree with the last speaker's point. this is a 30-year assault to dismantle worker organization because it allows the wealthy incorporations to set low wages and put profits above people in this country, and it destroys our democracy because workers have the resources to be able to fight not just for union rights, but for environmental protections, for voting rights. >> for women. >> for protecting planned parenthood, for immigration rights, and that's why there is going to be such a systematic attack. now that they couldn't suppress the vote, they're now going to try to take worker organizations off the playing field for 2014 and 2016. >> that's a different point than i was making. i think it's much less likely this time, legislation like this. >> scott walker said today or yesterday that he will not pursue right to work l
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they have to pass the other ones, and then rick snyder, we expect, to sign it. one thing that's interesting, ohio, something similar happened, and you saw a ballot initiative that actually repealed the right to work legislation. that's not likely to happen here because in the state constitution you can't repeal a spending bill, ask there was an appropriation, a spending measure, attached to this legislation. so it's going to be harder to overturn it. that doesn't mean people won't protest. it dent mean it won't become a national story, as it's already becoming, but getting it repealed or at least even the process of repeeling could be a lot more difficult. >> now, the president today in michigan is still doing the public campaigning, and this is beginning to pay off. you see real negotiations taking place. what do we know happened at the white house between the president and speaker boehner this weekend? >> we don't know all that much because they put out statements that said literally the exact same thing. it was a good conversation, blah, blah, blah, blah, bla
they have to pass the other ones, and then rick snyder, we expect, to sign it. one thing that's interesting, ohio, something similar happened, and you saw a ballot initiative that actually repealed the right to work legislation. that's not likely to happen here because in the state constitution you can't repeal a spending bill, ask there was an appropriation, a spending measure, attached to this legislation. so it's going to be harder to overturn it. that doesn't mean people won't protest. it...
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and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan? >> bill: sure. union workers. >> where does the union movement go? this is a big blow. what should they learn from this going forward so this doesn't happen in other states because as i understand it, right-to-work laws are in about half the states. >> bill: now 24. michigan is 24. >> i think it means work harder. the labor movement has worked hard. what it means i think is having a stronger conversation in america about whether we want workers to have a voice in the workplace. and if they don't what are the consequences? you know, we've had a flattening of income
and rick snyder just breaking with that tradition. so congressman, what happens -- i have to say for current tv, this would not have happened if our current tv's jennifer granholm were still governor of michigan. >> absolutely. >> bill: right? >> absolutely. you know, it is such a step backward. it is such a step backward. it goes back 67 years. international relations act essentially said america's better off if workers have a voice. what made the middle class of michigan?...
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snyder yesterday. this was the scene outside of the state capitol in lansing yesterday, where more than 10,000 protesters gathered as the house legislature passed that law. joining me is andy potter, vice president of the michigan corrections organization and chair of seiu's republican national advisory committee. good to have you here. because law makers in michigan attached a spending measure to the right to work bills, they can't be rescinded through a referendum but as politico is pointing out, labor unions are staging a counter attack on this. explain why right to work for people, that's supposed to be for the good of the people, would not therefore be put up for a right to be voted on by the people, and now seems entrenched in the fact that it can't go to a referendum. >> well, outside of the referendum, we are ramping up different kinds of opportunities. we are going to reach out to community partners and we are going to be continuing the conversation for two years until we can use the ballot sy
snyder yesterday. this was the scene outside of the state capitol in lansing yesterday, where more than 10,000 protesters gathered as the house legislature passed that law. joining me is andy potter, vice president of the michigan corrections organization and chair of seiu's republican national advisory committee. good to have you here. because law makers in michigan attached a spending measure to the right to work bills, they can't be rescinded through a referendum but as politico is pointing...
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that last quote of course was from rick snyder. current governor of michigan, who is apparently now been convinced that nothing is too divisive for his state. what happened to governor rick snyder around so fast on this? and what is going to happen to michigan if they pushed this through, as they say they are going to at lightning speed as early as tomorrow morning with no debate? joining us now for some insight is andy potter. he is a state vice president in the michigan corrections labor union. mr. potter himself is a republican, which makes me particularly grate to feel have a chance to talk to you tonight. so thank you for being here. >> absolutely. >> you are republican. your republican party is poised to strip union rights in a way that they didn't campaign on and that nobody really saw coming. why do you support union rights and what do you think is going on with your party? >> well, i support union rights because i've seen throughout the years the good that they have done in bringing to light some of the injustices that hap
that last quote of course was from rick snyder. current governor of michigan, who is apparently now been convinced that nothing is too divisive for his state. what happened to governor rick snyder around so fast on this? and what is going to happen to michigan if they pushed this through, as they say they are going to at lightning speed as early as tomorrow morning with no debate? joining us now for some insight is andy potter. he is a state vice president in the michigan corrections labor...
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tom the narrative was that rick snyder is a different brand of republican who was trying to move the fractured the suffering republican republican tea party back to the middle away from its billionaire masters away from the riffraff tea party this was supposed to be a governor and we saw this afternoon how wrong mainstream media was again but he was supposed to be the governor who moved away from the corporate lapdog mentality that controls people like rick scott or scott walker so i you know i don't see this as the end to unions at all i think what it is is that people start paying attention to statistics the statistics were out of the ten most poverty stricken states in america eight of those states are right to work states they're all red states by the way where you have in those right to work states the statistics start emerging where we see that employer sponsored health care insurance is dramatically lowered in those right to work states not just for union members tom but for everybody for the purpose for the purpose for the persons working right next to that union member their
tom the narrative was that rick snyder is a different brand of republican who was trying to move the fractured the suffering republican republican tea party back to the middle away from its billionaire masters away from the riffraff tea party this was supposed to be a governor and we saw this afternoon how wrong mainstream media was again but he was supposed to be the governor who moved away from the corporate lapdog mentality that controls people like rick scott or scott walker so i you know i...
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snyder i mean given that rick snyder surprised a lot of people rightly or wrongly perhaps we should have expected this but given that rick snyder surprised perhaps the white house by making this last minute announcement obama may have been in a jam where he was going to be there there's been frustration in the past by the failure to speak up for example earlier in wisconsin and so this is the situation he found himself in but certainly as we move into a second term under obama it's a good sign for labor that faced with this situation obama did choose to speak with some vigor about the issue while he found himself in michigan absolutely sunday josh just pointed out the in all probability the president himself you know when this trip was first planned had no idea that he was going to be walking into a right to right to work for less explosion in his face how much notice to the u.a.w. have of this. you know we were at the table with the governor because when things going to change didn't seem to go she had a way that the legislature labor community could work together and so we didn't
snyder i mean given that rick snyder surprised a lot of people rightly or wrongly perhaps we should have expected this but given that rick snyder surprised perhaps the white house by making this last minute announcement obama may have been in a jam where he was going to be there there's been frustration in the past by the failure to speak up for example earlier in wisconsin and so this is the situation he found himself in but certainly as we move into a second term under obama it's a good sign...
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governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick snyder says, by the way, it's not fair to call these people freeloaders. >> i think it's absolutely inappropriate to say someone is a freeloader. michigan people are hard-working people trying to make a living. if the union is offering them a value proposition, i don't see a michiganer hesitating to pay those dollars >> bill: i came close to calling that what it is. total b.s of course they are freeloaders. i have all of these people around me. they are paying their dues so we can get representation in the state legislature in the congress so we can work and get better re
governor rick snyder yesterday, the audacity -- right? of saying, oh this is pure kind of fox news bs. what? me? i just signed this anti-worker legislation. no, i am not anti-worker. i am pro-worker. >> so we are moving forward on the topic of workplace fairness and equality. again, i don't view this anti-union at all. i believe this is pro-worker. >> bill: right. it's like charlie manson saying i am pro-life, you know. >> peter: right. >> bill: ridiculous. and then rick...
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governor rick snyder likes to be seen as an anti-regulation guy. but not for this. the shutdown the clinics regulations, and the anti-telemedicine law that governor rick snyder in michigan is poised to sign after these bills race through both houses of the michigan legislature during this lame duck session, both of these target abortion rights in michigan. if fully implemented, they're expected to likely shut down most of the abortion clinics in michigan. governor snyder is hard at work on that now. while he is at it, the jobs, jobs, jobs governor is also poised to sign a law that would ban any insurance policy in michigan from covering abortion. no insurance coverage for abortion unless you would die without getting that abortion. that is the only exception. so if you are raped, if you are raped by your father or your uncle, if you're the victim of incest, tough luck. you can hold a bake sale or something. governor rick snyder is poised to ban your insurance from covering that cost. jobs, jobs, jobs. and also because obviously it was the message of the last electio
governor rick snyder likes to be seen as an anti-regulation guy. but not for this. the shutdown the clinics regulations, and the anti-telemedicine law that governor rick snyder in michigan is poised to sign after these bills race through both houses of the michigan legislature during this lame duck session, both of these target abortion rights in michigan. if fully implemented, they're expected to likely shut down most of the abortion clinics in michigan. governor snyder is hard at work on that...
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rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
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at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher wages and better health care, all of that, but they do not have to pay for it. why pay money if you can have something for free? for unions, the results of this are close to catastrophic which is why republicans and big business love right to work laws. they are a way of destroying unions. the same heritage foundation that will be jim demint's new home says union membership fell by 15% in states that passed right to work. union organizing fell by half, passing a right to work law stops unions and it stops organizing. on the labor left, the economic policy institute reports that wages fall by more than 3% after you institute right to work. and pensions take a hit, too. that's why unions call right to work the right to work for less. with governor snyder saying he wanted no part of a fight over right to work j
at the time reporters wanted to know whether rick snyder would support what is known as a right to work law. the idea of right to work is simple. under a right to work law, employees of a union shop don't have to pay union dues. the employees get the benefit of the union, the higher wages and better health care, all of that, but they do not have to pay for it. why pay money if you can have something for free? for unions, the results of this are close to catastrophic which is why republicans and...
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governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. >> first the wisconsin state capitol, now michigan. hundreds protesting against michigan coming a right to work state. today republican governor rick snyder and gop leaders saying they will push to right to work legislation. and tonight both the michigan house and cincinnati passing the measure. we spoke with.gov nor snyder about the erupting fight. >> nice to see you, sir. >> good to be with you. >> you've had an interesting day at the state capitol. you've had arrests and protests and pepper spr
governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator initiated. neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. brain upgrading to a quad-core processor. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to...
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before i do so, please i'd like you to listen to what michigan governor rick snyder had the temerity to say on "morning joe." listen to this. oh. we appear to not have that. we seemed to suggest this morning that for some reason this was good for workers. how is right to work -- >> nothing could be further from the truth. basically what he has done is blind sided a lot of folks up there in michigan. and it's not good for workers in that workers will be able to benefit, they don't have to join a union. but now they'll be getting representation for better benefits and better wages. and not presenting any kind of dues to pay for that representation. and that's a deliberate effort, martin, to destroy unions. we see it here in the congress. i've seen it in my own committee. there has been a march by our republican colleagues to do everything in their power to destroy and weaken unions. and this is just another effort in that road. and i think people have to see this for what it is. you know, keep in mind that governor snyder said he was not going to get involved in this because he thought
before i do so, please i'd like you to listen to what michigan governor rick snyder had the temerity to say on "morning joe." listen to this. oh. we appear to not have that. we seemed to suggest this morning that for some reason this was good for workers. how is right to work -- >> nothing could be further from the truth. basically what he has done is blind sided a lot of folks up there in michigan. and it's not good for workers in that workers will be able to benefit, they...
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governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator mccain say right now? you will hear from him coming up. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to yourself. so we created the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number experience. around a bed with dualair technology that allows you to adjust to the support your body needs - each of your bodies. our sleep professionals will help you find your sleep number setting. exclusively at a sleep number store. sleep number. comfort individualized. this holiday season, give the gift that's magical: the innovative airfit adjustable pillow at special 30% savings. >> first the wisconsin state capitol, now michigan. hundreds protesting against michiga
governor rick snyder is here. that's next. also senator john mccain calling president obama's refusal to intervene in syria disgraceful and shameful and that was months ago when he said that and now when it is so much worse. sierra is reportedly ready to use gas against their own people. what does senator mccain say right now? you will hear from him coming up. predictive intelligence with google now complete. introducing droid dna by htc. it's not an upgrade to your phone. it's an upgrade to...
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snyder for his signature. protesters of this new law number some 10,000 at today's demonstrations. most league made up of uaw union of the workers, machinists, teachers, sometimes angry crowds that seem to be taking cues frm their democratic leaders. one group described by those on the ground as a mob chanting and gohome while tearing down a conservative activist group tent. a member of that mob scene right here. this as protesters are heard in the background treatening the police with violence. here he is trying to plead with pro union protesters to be less physical, lot less. >> already destroyed onetent. leavitt's and alone. >> get out of my face. >> don't teardown that tend. >> get out of my face. i didn't hurt nobody. get outta my ace. get at my face. lou: one state legislator before the bout had been taken declared there would be blood, repercussions, as you saw there. some protesters got more than just a little physical. democratic state reprentative said i right to work legislation were to be passed, t
snyder for his signature. protesters of this new law number some 10,000 at today's demonstrations. most league made up of uaw union of the workers, machinists, teachers, sometimes angry crowds that seem to be taking cues frm their democratic leaders. one group described by those on the ground as a mob chanting and gohome while tearing down a conservative activist group tent. a member of that mob scene right here. this as protesters are heard in the background treatening the police with...
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rick snyder is up for re-election in 2014 anyway. he already isn't that popular: michigan is generally a blue state to start with. so if you could take out rick snyder in 2014, again, the legislature as it will be comprised this coming year amenable with the democratic governor to undoing the law. >> you don't mean a recall. >> no, no. like in wisconsin, you know, a lot of people in the wake of that say how did scott walker win by so much? voters may not have liked what he did but they didn't like the idea of, you know, he's in the middle of the term. let him finish we elected him to. that's not an issue for snider in 2014. >> i think it should be pointed out that the unions in michigan stand to lose $100 million a year and you can't remove that from the discussion when you're talking about the stakes. the stakes are high. for both sides but i think steve has very smartly laid out the mechanisms by which people who object to these right to work laws can go about overturning them if they so choose. hopefully what doesn't happen is the
rick snyder is up for re-election in 2014 anyway. he already isn't that popular: michigan is generally a blue state to start with. so if you could take out rick snyder in 2014, again, the legislature as it will be comprised this coming year amenable with the democratic governor to undoing the law. >> you don't mean a recall. >> no, no. like in wisconsin, you know, a lot of people in the wake of that say how did scott walker win by so much? voters may not have liked what he did but...
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once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little bit of police presence there. they're expecting 10,000 unionized workers to show up today. do they have some security measures in place? >> oh, yeah, they definitely do. you're seeing road closures around the capital. there are parking restrictions in place. you know, if last week is any indication when thousands of people descended on the capital, today aets expected to be even more intense because we're getting closer and closer to that final approval, yes. we've seen even yesterday when i was out here, police were getting ready for what the onslaught of demonstrators a
once that happens, it's expected to go to governor rick snyder's desk. he is expected to sign it, despite the fact that he did have an hour of intense meetings with democratic congressional delegation from here yesterday where they were asking him to veto this decision or at least delay the decision. he said he would consider their concerns but the likelihood is, if that bill reaches his desk, he will put his signature on it, zoraida. >> we're looking at video right now. we see a little...
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this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington, everyone's eyes are on the calendar. this friday, the house of representatives is supposed to break for the holidays. christmas is exactly two weeks from today. so when are we going to get a deal on taxes and spending cuts? our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is up on capitol hill. what are you hearing, dana? >> reporter: the senate majority leader who told me he's one of the biggest pessimists says he thinks it's going to be very difficult to get a deal done by christmas. meanwhile, republicans don't have a lot of opposition to raising the tax rat
this is outside of governor rick snyder's office. there has been a sit-in in the governor's office, a sit-in until the media was removed from the entry of the governor's office. so the debate is is not over but this is the law of the land, just a pen stroke away from being the law of the land here in the state of michigan. incredibly symbolic for this country and organized labor in america. >> all right. poppy is on the scene for us in lansing michigan. >>> here in washington,...
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all that's left now is for republican governor rick snyder to sign it. it will curb the power of unions, it gives workers the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to pay union dues. they decide that as opposed to mandatory dues which is the way that the state has been run and so many other states have been run up to now. this is a story that has been playing out, it has seen some very plowed -- loud and violent protests, but peaceful demonstrations going on right now around the statehouse. again, final approval given by the republican-controlled house in the state government there in michigan. all that's left is the governor's signature, it could come later today or tomorrow. of we will certainly keep you posted. >>> americans facing great danger in hot spots all around the world. it's now three months since the murderous attack at our consulate in libya. is the u.s. any closer now to bringing the killers to justice and making sure that nothing like that ever happens again? >>> also, you may not be familiar with this country, but terrorists lin
all that's left now is for republican governor rick snyder to sign it. it will curb the power of unions, it gives workers the chance to decide for themselves whether or not to pay union dues. they decide that as opposed to mandatory dues which is the way that the state has been run and so many other states have been run up to now. this is a story that has been playing out, it has seen some very plowed -- loud and violent protests, but peaceful demonstrations going on right now around the...
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michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the birthplace of the uaw. for what has been long considered a union strong hold, giving workers the freedom to choose. freedom to choose whether or not to pay a union and still keep their jobs. this will have national ramification. this is very historic day both for michigan at country. melissa: mark, is there aniable positive way to spin this for the union side? >> of course not. this is union-busting move by lame duck legislature. this is puppet marching to the beat of puppet tease, dick devs of amway who want to hurt unions. melissa: did they succeed? is there a way to battle bac
michigan governor rick snyder could sign bills into law any minute now. so is this the end for unions? joining me now is the the director of labor policy at mack kin gnaw center, who has been at the protests site all day. we have mark brenner, director of labor notes. vinnie, what do you make of what went on today? >> melissa, thanks for having me on. it is absolutely historic. you're talking about the state with the 52-week highest percentage of union members in the country. the...
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governor rick snyder of michigan expected to sign in to law the legislation that would make michigan a right to work state. president obama in his remarks there didn't come out exples sitly against that legislation as the white house has done before but, tamron, you are right. he actually talked about good union jobs. certainly, chatting with a lot of having the united autoworkers as a backdrop is sending a message he's on their side if he didn't sy that in the remarks but another explosive labor battle in the midwest. in michigan is the newest battleground there. >> mark, thank you very much. >>> more now on the heavy duty negotiating taking place over the fiscal cliff. that's part of the reason that the president is in michigan bringing his message to the people and yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner brought their message to one another. the first one on one in more than three weeks. will there be a deal to include what's called serious entitlement reform and cuts? joining me now congresswoman bass of california. it's a pleasure to have you on again. >> thanks,
governor rick snyder of michigan expected to sign in to law the legislation that would make michigan a right to work state. president obama in his remarks there didn't come out exples sitly against that legislation as the white house has done before but, tamron, you are right. he actually talked about good union jobs. certainly, chatting with a lot of having the united autoworkers as a backdrop is sending a message he's on their side if he didn't sy that in the remarks but another explosive...
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governor rick snyder joins us next. why he says it was the unions who started this fight. >>> and a little later, harvey weinstein will be here on set to discuss tonight's big benefit concert for hurricane sandy relief. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get unlimited talk, text and data for only $45 a month per phone. would we get the same coverage? same coverage on america's best networks. you saved $146.76 by switching to straight talk. awesome! now you can afford to share your allowance with me. get the season's hottest smartphones like the samsung galaxy s2 and get straight talk with unlimited data for just $45 a month -- from america's gift headquarters. walmart. ♪ [ male announcer ] can a car be built around a state of mind? ♪ announcing the all-new 2013 malibu from chevrolet. ♪ with a remarkable
governor rick snyder joins us next. why he says it was the unions who started this fight. >>> and a little later, harvey weinstein will be here on set to discuss tonight's big benefit concert for hurricane sandy relief. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. we're at walmart with the simmons family. how much is your current phone bill? four sixteen seventy six a month! okay, come with me -- we're gonna save you money. with straight talk at walmart, you get...
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governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't want the legislation is signing. we'll not stand for it >> over the weekend they continued to prepare members for staging demonstrations against did the measure. if the vote goes through, it will hurt organized labor but governor snyder said it is not about hurting unions but seeing it as proworker legislation. president obama will comment on this issue when he speaks to autoworkers about the fiscal cliff . this is fresh on the heels of his first private meeting with johnn boehner on the fiscal cliff subject. they met in the white house to discuss the differing plans and the communication lines between the two rema
governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't...
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just like the majority voted for rick snyder. i might not agree with his policies as governor, but i don't have a choice to hold back on my taxes. i might not agree with the direction the president is taking, but i got to pay my federal taxes or the irs will come after me. so the idea that you get all the benefits of the union membership and you don't have to pay your dues, and the union has to earn the support is a bunch of nonsense. the majority in those shops have spoken. 51% have wanted a union, and if you don't like it, you can take your business elsewhere. we're only 17% union. i agree with the governor, though. it's both a shot in the gut and a call to action. >> right. >> and i believe, you know what? sometimes it takes both. sometimes it takes a slap in the face, a shot in the gut, a kick in the shins to get people motivated. we are motivated and fired up. >> the big picture here, governor, is they're after the rust belt. >> they are. >> if they can break the backs of the unions and their infrastructure of funding and pa
just like the majority voted for rick snyder. i might not agree with his policies as governor, but i don't have a choice to hold back on my taxes. i might not agree with the direction the president is taking, but i got to pay my federal taxes or the irs will come after me. so the idea that you get all the benefits of the union membership and you don't have to pay your dues, and the union has to earn the support is a bunch of nonsense. the majority in those shops have spoken. 51% have wanted a...
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we'll have the latest on governor rick snyder's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. constitutional law professor jonathan turley has all the details. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the middle class tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be festive this holiday season. meantime, john boehner doesn't sound so merry. >> well, this isn't a progress report because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> the house speaker had nothing of substance to say about this week's phone conversation with the president. >> the phone call was pleasant, but was just more of the same. the conversations that the staff had yesterday, just more of the same. it's time for the president if he's serious to come back to us with a counteroffer.
we'll have the latest on governor rick snyder's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. constitutional law professor jonathan turley has all the details. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the middle class tax cuts. the president is also taking time...
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and republican governor rick snyder quickly signed the bills, calling them "pro worker" and "pro michigan," but opponents say the move weakens organized labor and will mean lower wages. >>> last night on "politics nation," democratic congressman gary peters of michigan told the reverend al sharpton that governor snyder did an about face on this issue. take a listen. >> it is particularly hard to explain, because we had a governor who repeatedly said that this was not on his agenda, this would be very divisive for our state. he continually said that for a couple years, and then immediately after the election had a really sharp about-face and then just jammed it through without, as you mentioned, without any hearings or public input. i was able to meet with him with other members of the congressional delegation. he sat and listened to us, but he never really responded, and when he did respond, in fact, i was amazed by the lack of understanding that he has about this issue. >> don't miss "politics nation," weekdays at 6:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. >>> all right, less than three week
and republican governor rick snyder quickly signed the bills, calling them "pro worker" and "pro michigan," but opponents say the move weakens organized labor and will mean lower wages. >>> last night on "politics nation," democratic congressman gary peters of michigan told the reverend al sharpton that governor snyder did an about face on this issue. take a listen. >> it is particularly hard to explain, because we had a governor who repeatedly said...
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there's no recourse for the people affected most by this particular -- now, do i think that rick snyder has made himself a one-term governor, yes but the damage is already done. >> stephanie: somebody said yesterday, if this is the right thing, why are you doing it in the dark, with no committee hearings? >> why is he doing it in a lame duck session when the answer is of course you don't have the votes when the new legislature comes together. >> stephanie: we were just saying on its face, seems to be a lot of political payback going on. >> this is the last gasp of an old order. i read something about ten minutes ago which said that the republicans seem to be content to litigate the 2012 election forever. >> stephanie: right. >> they're doubling down on voter suppression. they're doubling down -- guy in florida the other day saying -- as much as admitting the voter i.d. laws are voter suppression on the part of republicans. you've got this thing in michigan. it is like they've got this last chance to get everything they want and they're really pushing everything advantage they have. >> s
there's no recourse for the people affected most by this particular -- now, do i think that rick snyder has made himself a one-term governor, yes but the damage is already done. >> stephanie: somebody said yesterday, if this is the right thing, why are you doing it in the dark, with no committee hearings? >> why is he doing it in a lame duck session when the answer is of course you don't have the votes when the new legislature comes together. >> stephanie: we were just saying...
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michigan's republican governor rick snyder says when the bill reaches his desk, he'll sign it and make it into a new law. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and leaders on both sides are getting more serious. not sure why they weren't in the first place. >>> yesterday in michigan the president said he was open to spending cuts but held firm to raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> what you need is a package that keeps tacks where they are for middle-class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a splietly higher tax rate and that's a sprins pl i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all of
michigan's republican governor rick snyder says when the bill reaches his desk, he'll sign it and make it into a new law. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and...